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“Ask Me Anything” with Dan Mall, Author of Upcoming Rosenfeld Title, Design that Scales

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Monday, October 2, 2023 • DesignOps Summit 2023

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“Ask Me Anything” with Dan Mall, Author of Upcoming Rosenfeld Title, Design that Scales
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Summary

?Design systems are becoming more prevalent in how digital teams design sustainably at scale. Join Design System University founder Dan Mall in this “Ask Me Anything” session about design systems and learn more about his soon-to-be-released book, Design That Scales: Creating a Sustainable Design System Practice.

Key Insights

  • Design systems often fail when treated as one-off projects rather than ongoing organizational practices.

  • Embedding design systems in-house leads to stronger sustainability than transplanting from external consultants.

  • The best analogy for mature design systems is Agile: a way of doing work, not a project.

  • Effective design systems integrate all disciplines, including content design, language, and taxonomy.

  • Organizations typically have a mix of design system parts, processes, or neither and struggle to connect them at scale.

  • A key early metric of design system success is how soon design system personnel are included in product conversations.

  • Managing change improves when teams proactively communicate roadmap plans and expected design system evolutions.

  • To meet diverse teams at scale, focus design system efforts on components needed by a critical mass rather than all requests.

  • Use an 80/20 rule in design systems: 80% standardized components, 20% custom design to encourage innovation.

  • AI tools should be used to explore multiple design alternatives rather than producing a single solution to maintain creativity.

Notable Quotes

"A lot of people think about design systems as a project, but they’re really about how an organization gets work done."

"The goal is that design systems become the way that we do work, just like when you do Agile, you don’t talk about it—you just do it."

"Design systems should capture the reality of your organization, documenting how you work now and where you want to go."

"Sometimes you need to connect the people before you can connect the parts in a design system."

"I give every team I work with an 80/20 rule: 80% of your UI can be standard components, and 20% must be custom designed."

"If you use AI tools, ask for five different ways to do something, not just one, to force exploration."

"A key metric for a successful design system is how early the design system team is invited into project conversations."

"You have to know what the development roadmap is to ensure design system changes are properly integrated and prioritized."

"Change isn’t disliked as much as the surprise that comes with it—managing expectations makes change more palatable."

"Design systems teams are most effective when they focus on serving the components and processes needed at scale by many teams."

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